He was trying to repeat this master stroke. We decided to shake things up at the show.bear with us. Listen Infective Heredity. This is what totally pulled me into the story. Why did you do this?" I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. Thanks to all our great storytellers. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. I have a choice, I'm not going to go ahead with it. I've been thinking about him for the better part of a year as you know. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. And why I cared for her because I dated her before, but this day didn't turn out right. They couldn't deploy it. Well that's to [inaudible 00:19:32], just cut it out. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation-. This is how it describes what it does: 'Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. On the other hand, if anyone can do it-. Did members of Haber's family die in the concentration camp? We're close to some really fundamental truths about human nature. He would give all his baddies at least one moment where they could be understood. Go. That's it? We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. It was about how far would these people go? And to this day they have not talked about that day. Terms and conditions apply. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. So you ask like, "Why do people do bad things?". No. This is Radio Lab, and today elements. 1933 comes and Hitler takes over. And in this one you get 0% going all the way. Of course nobody wants to be killing other people. And-. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty. The subjects are 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. He believes in me and he trusts me and so much. This next part's a little graphic. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. And every scenario produced a different result. Don't you think you should look in on him, please? And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. But if you look at Milgram's work closely. He's bald. James Shapiro, Professor of English at Columbia University. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer 2.7K views over 2 years ago 41:58 With the recent passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there's been a lot of debate about how much power the Supreme Court should really have. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. That's historian Fritz Stern who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. I mean-. And Christensen, I dated her several times bef- three times- two times before. Wow. ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. I-. Okay. Each answer just begs another why. The killer seems to have placed the bodies as if they were mannequins. Radiolab weaves stories and science into sound and music-rich documentaries. That's one of the things that we need to know. I'm going to take a break. Very distinctive looking man. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. Time's up. comment. And 91% of the men said yes. All rights reserved. Let's begin with this story from our producer, Pat Walters. Uh, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder and badness and all these things we're thinking about. So, the subject seemed willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say it's an order. We'll be right back. I mean, that was make believe. Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - The Gun Show 69:05 : Feb 23, 2018: The Curious Case of the Russian Flash Mob at the West Palm Beach Cheesecake Factory 00:00:00 : Feb 19, 2018: Smarty Plants 34:54 : Feb 13, 2018: Ghosts of Football Past 36:40 : Feb 3, 2018: Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - One Nation, Under Money 55:04 : Jan 31, 2018 "I'm willing to help in a worthwhile experiment.". His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. But you know, we ended up walking this question around to different people. Every time that guy got the word wrong. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. Wow. Our food source then moves into our bodies. And my father was recruited to the task force. Today's date is, uh, June 17th. I'm Robert Krulwich. The Bad Show Jul 27, 2018. And you know there's nothing a closet full of clothes to help balance that out. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. I really want to do a good job.". Obviously no need to be alarmed, that was not a real shot. He would deny things. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. I'm gonna-. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. Hi, my name is Josh, and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. How many times would they shock that sad-. And this is the difference between Kaiser Wilhelm and of course Hitler's Germany. Well what is something's happened, the man had an attack or something there? He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. His health is failing in 1934, he takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium-. An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. In a lab at Yale University with a bunch of regular Americans. What makes boys boys and girls girls. That I remember picking her up and-. And there is no doubt that today's plants and animals carry the genetic legacy of ancestors who fought fiercely to survive and reproduce. And so, I ex- expanded the sample where we asked about 5000 people. Just because of a mathematical summing up. My dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. It was developed in his Institute. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. We should say that this next section of the program has some references which are extremely graphic-. It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? Our main story is the haunting tale of a chimp named Lucy. I'm Jad Abumrad. And according to some accounts, as it crept across no man's land-. Hi, this is Lauren from Winnipeg. And the number of chemical reactions. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. Our frenemy, uh, Fritz Haber. And I basically spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. The participants, you know, they're not- it's not- it's not just blind obedience. So if you have kids in the room, maybe this is a time to tell them to go brush their teeth or something. He even schemes against his own wife. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. So, Sam what happened to this guy after World War I? I got those all at night, mostly. He brings her up as an example of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. Is that like a green cloud? Now, that right there, slap some quotations around that. And then Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering hew with a pillow. Hi I'm Robert Krulwich. I thought about grabbing a knife quickly and stabbing him in the chest repeatedly until he was dead. He knew about it. WNYC is America's most listened-to public radio station and the producer of award-winning programs and podcasts like Radiolab, On the Media, and The Brian Lehrer Show. All right, just to back up for one second. How many times would they shock that sad-. Visit casper.com/radiolab and use code radiolab and check out to get $50 towards select mattresses. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. Pat, go ahead. Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? And, "Well why the rage?" Um, "Demand me nothing. And 91 percent of the men said, "Yes." He just kind of went crazy. ", Meanwhile, later that night on the other side of town-. Right. Yeah. When you call someone, "Evil." And he was wearing a fur coat-. In 1962, Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. There's a pause and my father just says. And is found by her son. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. But we ended up walking this question around different people-. And you know what? He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. With my arm. Well he started fuming that his wife had dissed him, and-. He ultimately spent 17 years searching for this man. I'm going to resign.". He could have never imagined that. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. On the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's helped or fed, versus people he's killed, I mean he's fed billions of people. Read these words. Which is a- a fairly small, you know, a small sort of town. And we didn't really come to any kind of agreement with the Haber thing. [inaudible 00:59:22] it's building up [inaudible 00:59:24]. We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" But the generals were not all that convinced. Three times a year, two times before-. Clara comes from the same town. Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. For information about Sloan, at www.sloan.org. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. Thousands of people have done it before you. And in the other room, there was a guy, who he called the learner, who was supposed to have memorized some words. Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal; which she hasn't. "This was a moment in German history," he says, "When Jews had a decent amount of freedom.". You know, just because of a mathematical summing up. Search metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search radio transcripts Search archived web sites Advanced Search. Uh, he's a master plotter. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen. And they're both secularized Jews. You know, energy from the sun to grow crops. Carries electric shocks. Sort of unsportsmanlike. Well, that's because you- be-because Molly's been in the chair. I mean it's a fact, of course, that they're administering pain to a stranger, that's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. Now, we're seeing about a 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year and that tonnages then moves into our food source. And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. Those who could still breathe would turn blue. And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. Said- said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone.". We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. They're supposedly chums, but General Othello has no idea that Iago-. Telling a friend he felt like he'd lost his homeland. Yeah, well (laughing). And the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. So, wait, if it doesn't show that people are just obeying orders-. And, you know, it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences. Under extreme, extreme pressure. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. Haber starts thinking, "In order to do this we need to pressure this, we need to put it under a lot of pressure.". The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. 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